On this episode of The DEB Show, host Debra Eckerling talks about healthy habits with a fun, playful twist with guests Rob Rosenthal and Eli Walker.

Rob Rosenthal (aka Short Order Dad) is a food humorist, author, and chef; Author Eli Walker is the CEO and founder of Drunk Yoga.   Rob and Eli share their backstories, as well as their thoughts on living healthy, eating well, and finding balance. There’s even a nice oatmeal tangent, as well as a comparison of working out to eating a cookie versus baking a cake.