In any business, you want to stand out. On this episode of The DEB Show host Debra Eckerling talks about Business Out of the Box with Jim Cermak, Trade Show University; Caitlin Penny, Copper Theory Creative; and Tabitha Scott, Epic Pivot. Jim, Caitlin, and Tabitha offer their takes on business, marketing, biz dev, authenticity, and more from an out-of-the-box perspective. Plus they share tons of tips and goals, designed to help people find their way toward a business that they love, whether it’s your company, a side hustle, or a passion project.

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