“People that talk too much are insecure; people that listen too much are not.” – Dan Lyons

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So let’s cut to the chase: Talking is easy, but real conversation? That’s an entirely different animal. Whether I’m hosting “Joseph Jaffe is Not Famous,” writing books, or teaching the next generation at NYU, it’s clear that genuine dialogue is what we’re all craving, in both our digital and real-world interactions.

Fortunately, I got this from my recent conversation (watch it in full here) with Dan Lyons, as we spoke about dodging a meeting with Prince because he was too anxious, about the days he spent working in a textile mill, and about the wild, fast-changing world of Web3 —only to tie it all back to his latest book, “STFU: The Power of Keeping Your Mouth Shut in an Endlessly Noisy World.”

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Here are my show notes: 

How did you decide to become a dentist? (13:02)

Meeting Prince in the greenroom. (17:10)

Are you the stupid one or are you stupid in 2000? (23:41)

The importance of being an active listener. (29:44)

People who can cope with silence. (36:03)

Talking too much and blowing the sale. (42:15)

Tangents and vacations with no plan. (49:25)

Why is it hard to be a good listener? (56:57)

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Quote of the Episode: “Me being mean: Can you shut the fu.. up? Me being nice: Can you please shut the fu.. up?” – Unknown

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