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“I write for myself, but I edit for the reader.” — Liz Lazarus
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ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Liz Lazarus is an engineer by education, a GE Healthcare executive by experience, and an author by calling. Her fourth novel, Dawn Before Darkness, is a psychological thriller about a vet tech named Dawn Smith who escapes a toxic relationship only to find herself stalked, harassed, and dragged into a guardianship battle for her aging mother. It’s a story ripped from Liz’s own life — she spent ten years and thousands of dollars fighting a stranger for legal guardianship of her mom in South Carolina. To build her supervillain, Liz interviewed ten women who survived stalkers and combined their experiences into one relentless antagonist. Mike and Liz talk about writing as therapy, journaling your way into a debut novel, the puzzle of twist endings, self-publishing as self-determination, and why you should sit down with your family and have the uncomfortable estate planning conversation before it’s too late.
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KEY TAKEAWAYS
1. Writing began as therapy, not ambition. Liz’s first novel, Free of Malice, started as a journal she kept after a man broke into her house in college at Georgia Tech. She didn’t know she had PTSD — she just knew journaling was helping her process what happened. That journal eventually became a legal thriller about self-defense.
2. The four things she needs before writing. Liz won’t start a novel until she knows the protagonist, the antagonist, the twist ending, and the opening hook. Once those are locked, she outlines, interviews experts, and writes when she has content — no rigid daily schedule.
3. Every book educates and entertains. All four novels carry social causes — self-defense law, stalking, guardianship abuse — but entertainment comes first. The education is baked into the story, never lectured.
4. A ten-year guardianship nightmare inspired the book. Liz fought a family member, then a professional guardian, for control of her mother’s care. The judge recused himself; they moved counties; the costs were staggering. Dawn’s story in the novel is actually a softened version of what Liz lived through.
5. Ten stalker survivors built one supervillain. Liz put the word out on Facebook asking women with stalker experiences to talk. Several came forward, and she combined their stories into a single antagonist so devastating that reviewers say they’ve never hated a character more.
6. Characters are real people — and sometimes they surprise you. Liz describes writing in a groove as watching characters on a screen and taking notes. Twice a character did something she didn’t plan — including getting fired — and she kept it because human behavior trumps outlines.
7. Self-publishing is owning your destiny. Liz created her own publishing company, learned ISBNs, layout, Mobi, EPUB, and PR from scratch. She values the control — no risk of being dropped by a publisher, no lost say over covers or release dates.
8. A twist must be earned. Inspired by The Usual Suspects, Liz insists every twist must make the reader say “I should have caught that.” No tropes, no lost phones — it has to follow from human behavior and planted clues.
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GET THE BOOK
Dawn Before Darkness by Liz Lazarus
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Dawn-Before-Darkness-Liz-Lazarus/dp/099093747X?tag=rettocasgra-20
Barnes & Noble: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dawn-before-darkness-liz-lazarus/1146561497
Bookshop.org: https://bookshop.org/a/54587/9780990937470
Book Website: http://www.dawnbeforedarkness.com/
Also by Liz Lazarus: Free of Malice, Plea for Justice, Shades of Silence
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CONNECT WITH LIZ
Website: https://lizlazarus.com
Linktree: https://linktr.ee/lizlazarus
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