The Nice Podcast with Dave Delaney

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#30 Community, marketing, and business development with Pamela Slim.

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Pamela Slim is an award-winner author, speaker, and business coach who works with small business owners ready to scale their businesses and IP. She is the author of Escape from Cubicle Nation, Body of Work, and The Widest Net. Pam and her husband Darryl co-founded the K’é Main Street Learning Lab in Mesa, Arizona, where they host scores of diverse community leaders and regular small business programming.

What we talked about…

  • K’é Main Street Learning Lab.
  • Running an event space during the pandemic.
  • Having a connected community and relationships.
  • Overcoming sales challenges.
  • Empire Model of business development versus Ecosystem Model.
  • Find your peanut butter and jelly partners (PB&J). Ask your ideal clients who they work with.
  • Tiny Marketing Actions (TMAs).
  • Tiny Habits: The Small Changes That Change Everything by BJ Fogg and Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones by James Clear.
  • Tracking and planning your actions to identify patterns in business development.
  • Why persistence is important in your sales outreach and how to handle it.
  • Use your CRM to track your outreach and stop checking your inbox.
  • Choosing the right tools. Focus on your minimal viable need.
  • Best practices for interviews with your past clients.
  • Creating your Justice League – a shared mission to solve problems.
  • Read If You Want to Write by Brenda Ueland.
  • Contact Pam at

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