On Brand With Nick Westergard

Hosted ByNick Westergard

On Brand helps organizations and individuals tell stronger stories and build better brands. Each week host Nick Westergaard, author of Brand Now and Get Scrappy, interviews marketing and communication thought leaders or those working for innovative brands like Adobe, Ben & Jerry’s, Maker’s Mark, the Minnesota Vikings, The Onion, Salesforce, and Whole Foods. For show notes and more, please visit http://onbrandpodcast.com.

We Have an Attentional Health Problem

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We often treat our attention like a machine to be controlled, focusing only on the metrics that drive immediate results. But we have an attentional health problem. We are starving our organizations of the relational connection they need to truly thrive. Today, the author of The Culture Code, Daniel Coyle, joins us to discuss his new book, Flourish. We are moving beyond the boardroom to explore how we can design environments of belonging, joy, and vitality by shifting our focus from narrow control to deep, human connection.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode
How to balance narrow focus with relational attention to improve your attentional health
Why embracing a certain level of friction and annoyance is the essential price of building real community
The leadership play of framing horizons and guardrails rather than dictating specific answers
How to move from a culture of coercion to one of curiosity by asking the simple question what is your story
Why the most effective leaders act as designers who spotlight and celebrate organic growth

Episode Chapters
(00:00) Intro
(01:18) The Westergaard Code and guiding attention
(03:53) Understanding the two systems of attention
(06:49) Attentional health and the blueprint for flourishing
(09:11) Creating connective energy and mattering
(13:28) Why we are terrible at predicting social joy
(18:54) Designing community through the longest lunch in Paris
(23:13) Leadership as a design function and the power of small groups
(25:31) Practicing patience and spotlighting what works
(27:47) Brand that makes Daniel Coyle smile

About Daniel Coyle
Daniel Coyle is the New York Times bestselling author of The Culture Code, which was named Best Business Book of the Year by Bloomberg, BookPal, and Business Insider. He has served as an advisor to many high-performing organizations, including the Navy SEALs, Microsoft, Google, and the Cleveland Guardians. His extensive body of work includes The Talent Code, The Secret Race, The Little Book of Talent, and Hardball, which was adapted into a major motion picture. In his latest work, Flourish, Coyle draws from rigorous reporting and scientific research to offer a practical blueprint for cultivating a life of belonging, joy, and vitality.

What Brand Has Made Daniel Smile Recently?
Daniel Coyle recently found himself smiling at Martin Guitars. After acquiring his first one, he was struck by the brand’s deep interweaving with the fabric of American music, noting how even the lyrics to the classic song “The Weight” were inspired by the brand’s Nazareth, Pennsylvania, roots. For Coyle, the way people care for these instruments and their storied history makes being around the brand feel genuinely good.

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