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The Sh*t Does Not Get Done in Your Org Chart Episode

Aug 15, 2026 By MPN

This week, Cathy is back for her monthly visit, talking about discovering the real operating model and it’s not in your org chart.

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This week, Ian and Cathy McKnight, Chief Problem Solver at Seventh Bear discuss a recent post from her Bear Essentials series on the Seventh Bear blog: Your Marketing Org Chart Is Fiction.

They discuss:

  • The VP everyone quietly routes around

  • How do we make the most of the AI opportunity?

  • If everyone kinda knows how to get shit done, why does this matter?

  • What should marketing leaders be doing instead?

  • What should marketing leaders be trying this week?

On the topic of getting shit done, Robert Rose had to go do that and was not able to join Ian in the bar, but he should be back next week.

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