the (un)business podcast

Host, Jamie Lieberman, discusses the issues in your business where legal topics and business strategy intersect, in a fun and accessible way. No more boring business speak or topics that don’t matter to you. You will get a behind the scenes sneak peak into the real life successes and failures of business owners, with Jamie’s analysis of the things they did right and the things that could be improved. So sit back and relax and get ready to learn in the most (un)business way possible.

Season 3, Episode 3 – Setting the Right Mindset:  An interview with Kat Norton, Miss Excel

Since launching Miss Excel in June of 2020, Kat Norton has grown a 7-figure course sales business and a community of over 1 million people on TikTok & Instagram through viral Excel trick videos infused with creativity, music and dance. Kat was recently awarded the Microsoft MVP award and was named one of the Top…

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S3 Ep02 – Focusing On Your Mission: An Interview With Catherine & Kristin Of The Hive

In our first interview of the season, Jamie is chatting with Kristin Karotkin and Catherine Willhoit of The Hive, an amazing local coffee shop in Hoboken, New Jersey. Since opening its doors in 2020, The Hive has become one of Hoboken’s most popular destinations and its owners have been recognized for their work by Hudson…

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Season 3, Episode 1 – Welcome to Season 3 – The Season of Strategy

Welcome to Season Three! In this season, we are mixing things up and coming to you with twelve amazing interviews. Through my legal practice, I meet some incredible business owners. Each one teaches me something new and has helped me on my journey as an entrepreneur. I wanted to bring their expertise to our listeners…

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Season 2, Episode 12 – Wrapping Up Season Two: Negotiation Takeaways

We cannot believe it is already the end of Season Two! We hope this season has helped you level up your negotiation skills and can be a resource you can go back to when you need some added support. In Season Three we are changing things up a bit. Season Three will be all interviews…

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Season 2, Episode 11 – Career Negotiations: An Interview with Belma McCaffrey

This week, Jamie interviews Belma McCaffrey, the CEO and Founder of Work Bigger, a career coaching platform for dissatisfied high-achievers who want to find their purpose. Through coaching and community, Work Bigger helps individuals connect to their mission and step into their purpose and full potential. Belma’s work has been featured in Forbes, Fortune, Thrive, and…

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Season 2, Episode 10 – What is A BATNA and Why Do I Care?

In this episode, Jamie breaks down the importance of setting a BATNA, or the Best Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement when planning for a negotiation. She gives you a framework to create your BATNA and guidelines for using your BATNA in a negotiation. Check out this episode to get an advantage in your next negotiation….

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Season 2, Episode 9 – International Negotiations: An Interview with SeiSei Tatabe-Goddu

This week, Jamie interviews Seisei Tatebe-Goddu, the Founder & CEO of Tandem Consulting Group, an organization providing strategy and organization development consulting, coaching, and training to clients across 3 continents. SeiSei gave us some fantastic insights about negotiations spanning different countries and cultures. Don’t miss this episode! If you want to learn more about SeiSei…

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Season 2, Episode 8 – Most Common Mistakes in Negotiation

In this episode, Jamie lays out the most common mistakes she sees during client negotiations. This episode will help you avoid some of these common pitfalls, including poor planning, being overly competitive, ignoring cultural differences, letting emotions impact your judgment and many more! Check out this episode to get an advantage in your next negotiation….

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Season 2, Episode 7 – Salary & Career Negotiations: An Interview with Molly Marq

This week, Jamie interviews Molly Marq, the creator of Negotiate This, a blog and platform focused on all things negotiation. Molly is on a mission to equip every person with the tools they need to negotiate a better future and take action in their career. Don’t miss this episode! If you want to learn more…

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Season 2, Episode 6 – How To Ask Effective Questions and Actively Listen

This topic seems self-explanatory, but believe it or not, Jamie is asked how to ask effective questions so frequently, we decided to make it a whole episode. In this episode, Jamie provides a framework to teach you how to ask questions designed to elicit answers that will help you in your negotiation. And once you…

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